A Response to Joshua Feuerstein’s Starbuck’s War on Christmas
’twas a month before Christmas and all seemed good. The Christians were warming up their credit cards, to spend all that they could. In preparation for the birthday of their saviour, gifts were planned according to children’s behaviour. The trusty merchants were stocking their shelves, in the hopes to hoard great wealth for themselves.
But not all was good in the land of the first world. A great persecution was stirring, a great war we’ve heard. Just on the horizon a marvellous symbol did appear; it was the golden sun of Starbucks, overpriced coffee was near. On the side was its green and white semi-pagan corporate logo, profit engine full steam ahead, filled with free market mojo. The logo’s hands were raised with an almighty roar: snowflakes, doves and trees on our cups no more! The Christmas cheer had been stolen, all wonder abandoned. The evils of inclusive secularism is what’s happened.
This injustice caused a man of God to raise his voice about how they see us, “Starbucks REMOVED CHRISTMAS from their cups because they hate Jesus.” Joshua Feuerstein ranted and raved, remove God from society and all will decay! He declared with a bellowing roar, on each and every Christmas, there is a war. As each year passes we become a great victim, it’s more and more evil with which we are stricken. If society becomes completely inclusive, for Christians it will be nothing but abusive! If we no longer see Jesus at the mall, it will be clear that they’ll kill Christians all!
On the other side of the globe, other persecutions did unfold.
It happened in deep and dark place, a land which had no safe space. Down in a hovel in the third world, a place which of no American has heard. The land went by the name of Myanmar, where crimes went unanswered because they’re too far. A small Muslim family hid in fear, because a Buddhist death squad just might be near. The Buddhists unleashed a torrent of violence and tolerance verboten, their philosophy of live and live, totally forgotten. It was too late for they had been caught, it was over for them, and to death they were shot. Blood ran from their bodies matted with hair, in an echo of the Christians, “this is unfair.”
Two different worlds of religion’s persecution, it’s alright, so long as it doesn’t happen to Christians. An inequality in the world was apparent, the misery it caused, fully aberrant.
From a Maoist-Third Worldist these words could be heard: “Jesus Christ, man, death to the first world.”
5 thoughts on “A Tale of 2 Religious Persecutions”
I think Islam is more revolutionary than Christianity or Buddhism. The worker is entitled to the fruits of his/her labor in Islam. All property belongs to God. A Muslim is required to give zakat and is encouraged to give charity. Islam also discourages too much wealth. This isn’t socialism per se but it creates room for anti-capitalism. All people are equal in God’s eyes so there’s no social hierarchy.
Christianity has a class structure with church hierarchy and Buddhism has a clerical hierarchy along with the caste system. Both religions also preach hatred of the material world and want believers to live in a bubble. So does Judaism. Hasidic Jews willingly live in shit conditions because they think nothing will get better until their messiah arrives. Islam says things will get better if we enforce justice so even though they aren’t materialist their religion is more materialist than others. Judaism also preaches tribalism whereas Islam preaches universalism.
are you retarded?
no you are real fucking retarded.
Islam has always had a distinct class structure. Muhammad was a pope and a king. He went on raids and established a colonial empire, nearly identical to the Spanish in the Americas or the British in Africa. when christianity began it was a non-violent hippie sect. when islam began it began as the ruling system of a political state. jesus was against the political system. muhammad established a political system and a tyrannical one at that. muslims today think the caliphate must be reinstalled in order to save everyone’s soul since no one can really be saved if society isn’t running according to islam. this is why muslims focus entirely on politics and less on missionary work. Islam also has a colonial history in Africa. The Muslim slave masters had no intention of converting their African inferiors to Islam, however, because Islam prohibits Muslims from enslaving other Muslims, hence why the term kaffir has the dual meaning of non-believer and Negro. Black Africans were seen as being undeserving of Allah’s enlightenment and eternal paradise.
most forms of buddhism reject the caste system. you couldn’t be more stupid. hinduism’s caste system used to be about race but is now entirely about the division of labor and has been for centuries. either way it’s not entirely accurate to paint hierarchy in hinduism and buddhism like the hierarchies in christianity and islam.
And to paint Buddhism as being as violent as Islam is also inaccurate. Aside from the situation in myanmar and maybe tibet i can’t think of a single instance where buddhists go around committing random acts of violence. Buddhism does not kill out of impulse. Islam does. Islam has a strict code of honor that its adherents must abide by. this is why muslims threaten to attack anyone who publicly defames muhammad or islam. They feel shame if they aren’t able to stop the degradation of their religion or their prophet, because they know they’ll be seen by others as weak and feeble. so, they commit acts of violence to maintain their honor.
The dharmic religions see violence as something that hurts spiritual progress. If you are to commit acts of violence the violence can only be made holy if it’s completely non-attached. If you commit violence because you’re angry or out of personal revenge the violence is seen as unholy.
If you had any knowledge of imperialism, you’d know the west supported Pakistan when the Soviets supported India. To even pretend like Muslim violence in Kashmir is a response to western imperialism is laughable.
“Islam has always had a distinct class structure.”
No it doesn’t.
“Muhammad was a pope and a king. He went on raids and established a colonial empire, nearly identical to the Spanish in the Americas or the British in Africa.”
Islam prohibits all offensive wars. Those ‘raids’ were acts of defense. Muhammad left no successor and there’s doubt he even wanted to keep the caliphate going after his death.
“jesus was against the political system. muhammad established a political system and a tyrannical one at that.”
Christianity has killed and established more empires than Islam. Christians were the ones who enslaved and invaded the Americas and most of the world. Muhammad’s caliphate was relatively equal as the Quran says all people are equal.
“muslims today think the caliphate must be reinstalled in order to save everyone’s soul since no one can really be saved if society isn’t running according to islam. this is why muslims focus entirely on politics and less on missionary work.”
The caliphate is being pushed on them by imperialism idiot. Most Muslims don’t want shariah in politics because they’d rather be modern since Islam promotes progress and forward-thinking. It’s also against Islam to forcefully convert anyone because Muslims don’t want hypocrites in their religion. Everyone who converted throughout history did so voluntarily. Quran even says there is no compulsion in religion. You only submit to god if you want to and no one is punished for refusing to submit.
“Islam also has a colonial history in Africa. The Muslim slave masters had no intention of converting their African inferiors to Islam, however, because Islam prohibits Muslims from enslaving other Muslims, hence why the term kaffir has the dual meaning of non-believer and Negro. Black Africans were seen as being undeserving of Allah’s enlightenment and eternal paradise.”
Christians enslaved more people. Even Jesus was pro-slavery.
You are a total moron. Violence happens because of imperialism. Nothing in Islam supports anything close to offensive violence against enemies.
once again you demonstrate your tremendous ignorance on the subject.
Let me put it this way: Judaism is past-looking. In Judaism there is an imperative to remember your past and the past of the Jewish People. That’s what most Jewish holidays are about. The Jews are also prohibited to look into the future and are told instead to complete the past rather than to speculate on future events.
Islam is the exact opposite. Muslims are told not to think about the past, because the past is considered a time of darkness and ignorance (jahaliyyah). Instead Muslims are told to look forwards to a future where everything is running according to God’s laws and everything is in its right order. Muslims who commit acts of violence such as the Charlie Hebdo shooting aren’t doing so because they want revenge for the suffering of their ancestors under colonialism. Those acts of violence come entirely from the shame/honor culture promoted by Islam.
If this is entirely about imperialism, where are all the Vietnamese suicide bombers? Where are all the Guatemalan and Nicaraguan suicide bombers? Where are all the Chilean, Brazilian, Dominican, or Haitian suicide bombers? Haiti is the poorest country in the Western hemisphere and also the most invaded. Why aren’t Haitians waging violent war on America or France?
“Christianity has killed more than Islam” is a fallacy of relative privation (look it up). No one denies the crimes of Christians but to say they in any way negate the crimes of Islam is fallacious. Islam has always had a rigid social hierarchy and has always been the religion of the elites. The early Christians were all a bunch of rebels and hippies whereas the early Muslims were all elites. Muhammad may have started off as a poor orphan but he became a successful merchant and later a politician and pope. He was definitely not some commoner.
“The caliphate is being pushed on them by imperialism idiot.”
And yet a large majority of Muslims are against secularization. To secularize would be to put the ignorance of man over the all-knowing word of God. Muslims know secularization would create a huge obstacle to their salvation since society would start to crumble if not based on the eternal laws of God. This is why Muslims in the UK deliberately shun the secular world and punish their children for embracing it. If someone in their community is infected with secular ideology, that person runs the risk of bringing others down with them. So, in order for the family to avoid shame, they punish or ostracize their demon offspring who go against their parents’ wishes and embrace secular culture. The patriarchal family is also extremely important in Islam. Muhammad demanded that children obey their parents at all times unless the parents are sinners or non-Muslims.
Exegesis of the Qur’an is not allowed. You are only allowed to interpret the Qur’an using the Hadith, since the Qur’an was given to one individual and one individual only (Muhammad).
If the man actually had a true understanding and practice of his own religion he wouldn’t need it on a cheap paper coffee cup. The church is dead as a positive social force in the face of liberal global capital so people practice their religion falsely through their consumer behavior.
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